Friday, May 17th 2013, 7:53 pm
News 9's Lisa Monahan was inside the courtroom Friday as the murder trial for Becky Bryan entered its tenth day. These are her notes and not a word-for-word representation of what was said.
DEFENSE 2ND WITNESS DAVID REDDICK- BECKY BRYAN'S BROTHER
I performed their wedding ceremony
how did you do that? Im an ordained minister
was your family a spiritual family ? yes
have you conducted funerals? yes, 67 funerals as of last Friday
as part of funerals do you counsel them? yes, thats a big part of the job
have you seen different variations for how people handle death? yes
I've done funerals for some good life, bad life,
what kind of things do you see from your areas - regarding emotions?
Everyone handles things in their own way.
some people want you to leave them alone, some want you to hold their hand, some want you to talk to them
after they were married how did the family progress? we took trips together, becky and my wife were like sisters, we spent time together, there were periods of times when we were away that we didn't have those close moments
we heard that keith and becky were married 33 years- i take it you loved keith? oh yes
did you consider him friends? i considered him one of my best friends
how much time did you spend before the shooting? a lot, we went to Branson, we went to golf, we did a lot of things together
you knew of a problem in their marriage? yes, Becky came to us one time. and then keith talked with us about how he loved her
did you know someone else had become involved in the relationship? yes becky told us
did keith know about it ? yes
what was keith's take on all of that ? he loved her would always love her would do anything to keep the relationship -whatever it took he said he would do it - we had conversation after conversation about it
did you talk to becky about it? somewhat she knew i wouldn't approve and didn't tell me everything - because of my belief standards she didn't relay a lot of the things
during the separation - do you feel like they grew apart? he thought they had. and she thought he was leaving her out of the decision makings. she was very hurt about the decision of the job
after separation did keith want to get them back together? we had lots of conversations about it - he asked what he could do to get her back- we would just talk like any friends would talk but there was also a pastoral talk
in doing counseling- is it uncommon to see people who grow apart or fall out of love? no
if they have fallen out of love
in her conversations about keith- did she still love him? yes
what makes you think that ? she said it - but she said she didn't know if she could stay with him because of him leaving her out. He kept to himself about a lot of his decision
"he always said that becky is the person who brought him to the place he wanted to be in his life"
you knew she filed for divorce at some point ? yes
at some point they reconciled? yes
after that did you still socialize with them?yes
tell us what you saw? i saw 2 people working on a relationship and both indicated they loved each other
keith constantly said how much he loved her and becky would say i want this to work.
i asked her point blank - do you still love him? and she said yes i still love him,
anytime between that up to this point did she ever wish any ill will on him? no
did she ever look like she wished ill will on him? no she was always someone to help others - even care for sickly dogs
talking about taking care of people- were are your parents today? in assisted living, she was their basic caregiver until she no longer could
what do you mean caregiver? she took mom to doctor and did things to the point i could never do- she just took care of just about everything
is that something she felt like she had to do or wanted ? i could have done it - but she said she could do it and that i needed to be doing other things
she took care of aunt - what was her name - louise
it is rebecca louise - was becky named after her ? yes
did they have a strong relationship? yes she trusted becky unlike any other
it was her desire that when she could no longer take of herself that becky take care of things.
is she still alive? no
did you spend time with becky & keith in august - september? we still spent time together somewhat - keith came by and we chatted a number of times in august. we played golf together.
did keith tell you anything going on or anything about the marriage? no, they came over one night and i asked him if everything was going good and he said yeah, right now everything is going great.
when was that ? 2-3 weeks before the incident
you had any conversations with becky? well that night
no lets not go to that night yet- before then?
no, but it looked and appeared everything was fine
was keith still coming by? he was 2 weeks before
did you have any discussion with keith around sept 19th or sept 20th? he called and left a message saying kent needed a trailer.
did you call keith back and have a discussion with him? i called kent to tell em that i would bring trailer to their house
keith didn't make it sound like it was imperative
did that cause issue? well yes, becky called and i didn't think it was that big of a problem for it to be a day or so... so i told her i would go get it... that conversation ended up talking about my mothers wedding set that had been given to my wife.
it became a very serious conversation
why was that? becky was feeling that i had been favored and that my wife had been favored. that mom would give my wife something over her.
I was being cavalier and she was being serious
did you then offer becky anything? i told her you can have the ring and the trailer. we love each other and this is just stuff. she said its valuable - i said you can have it
was it valuable? it was appraised for $ 9,000
do you know the value in sept? approximately $20, 000
did you part on good terms? i said yes. you can have it and my wife said let her have it - we never knew it was a problem
but did you make up? we we never had a relationship like that we did not fight. so i turned around and called keith that i would bring the trailer out to the house.
i texted her and said i love you, sorry -- and she said i love you
i took the trailer out to their house.
was that the last conversation you had with keith? yes
when was the next ? my son called around 1045 saying keith had been shot.
i talked to becky right after i talked to my son
what did becky tell you? she said that a guy came in and shot him and then she gave me the information i'm sorry ma'am he should have given me the job
how was she acting? upset, horribly upset.
i heard people in the background and i said, hey we are leaving Branson we will be there soon.
you say horribly upset what do you mean? her voice was elevated, her tone, she was not screaming but had a lot of emotion . i thought she was crying on the phone but i couldn't see her.
did she describe the actual physical things that happened to keith? yes
so you and your wife go to medical center? yes
what time did you get there? approx. 4 am
did you see becky? not immediately
do you know where becky was when you got to the hospital? i was told she was in an interview room
where did you first see her? at that waiting room right inside the entrance
what did you do when you first saw her ? hugged her and said we will get through this
how was she at that point in time? she was in shock she was um not sure what to do not sure how to handle anything that was going on around her. she was being her normal self trying to figure out how to get control over the situation
did you have any more discussion with her about the media? she said i want the media to know what kind of guy keith was and i need to talk to them and i said becky no.
-she was being becky- becky was a person that would do things you don't want her to do so she could take control of the situation.
my mom was somewhat controlling and you lived by moms rules and all three of us wanted to make our choices. i would talk to my dad... and becky and tim would try to shock my mom. like one time mom tried to tell becky what she would wear and becky said fine i will just go naked.
was that common - would she say things that were shocking to control? yes
so it did not just manifest that night? no, always- it was just the way we were raised
people in here have said she would say shocking things? its a way she changes a tone or changing a situation she was in. my brother would do the same thing
did you have any other conversations with becky that morning? there was a lot of i love you and she was wanting to do things i didn't want her to do.
she would want to talk to this person or that - she had no sense of direction to me... she was just absolutely in shock
outside on the bench did she say ?she said i'm probably gong to smoke two packs of cigarettes and she knew how i felt about the cigarettes - most times she wouldn't say anything
did she make any statements about where her life was at that point in time? well she said she didn't know what she was going to do.
she said i just hope from this - she said i just hope something good will come out of this i don't know how i just hope something will come out of this- she mentioned ted wilson getting a liver from the organ donation.
elaborate on "i don't know what i'm going to do?" she just said she didn't know what she was going to do without him - she was crying and she teared up pretty good and she said i hope i'm not a burden to you.
you said becky wanted to tell about how good keith was - she said she wanted to tell the media and get the word out and so ted could get the liver.
I said don't worry about that i know someone we can call.
you knew a guy called stan? i will call stan miller?yes, we play golf together- he is an ordained minister, i called him and asked him how we need to handle this.
did he come and talk to you? yes
and did he talk to becky? yes for about 30 mins
did he want to do an interview with her? no
who's advice was it not to do an interview? his
i had agreed to talk to the media because the two sons said it would be better if one person handled it
i think it was pretty obvious there was a lot of media attention? yes
when was the next time you were called? the pastor Jim McNabb called and said he wanted to talk about funeral so we were going to meet at hilton garden inn
was becky staying there? yes and my brother, tim
how was becky then?still shock - even in front of pastor jim
when he left the room she said can you believe i just lit a cigarette in front of pastor mcnabb
how was she acting- she was being becky-still in shock still in that mode we saw her in that tuesday morning
did you know becky owned a gun? yes keith came by and told me he was going to get a gun at h&h and becky was real pleased she completed the conceal carry course she felt she needed protection because a realtor out east was getting threatening calls so she knew someone was out there.
did you know another gun was bought at same time?he told me he bought two.
anytime she went out of town she always kept it in her purse
what about keith?he had a 40 caliber
where did he keep it? by the bed
do you know if keith sold that 40?he didn't sell it we talked about that but we talked about how he was looking to get something different - in fact he told my brother if he wanted to sell it he would talk to him first
CROSS EXAMINATION
you still clearly love your sister ? yes
still speak to her on a regular basis? yes
and she respects your position in the church? yes
would you agree that people act different around you and don't always act normal around you? yes
and when she was having an extramarital affair she didn't tell you a lot ? she told me about it
but she didn't talk about it as much as keith did? yes
when did you first find out? keith thought she was having an affair and i told him to confront her about it and then she later told me
how much prior to her filing for divorce did you find out about the affair? 3 weeks/month
how long after keith came to you did she confirm she was having an affair? 2-3 wks
in aug 2009, she had made references that caught me off guard
what kind of remark did she make? it had to do with the job interview in texas that she had really got hurt because he didnt talk to her about it
but you know keith took your sister to texas? yes
and that on their way back they had breakfast with holbrook?no
so he was involving her in his job decision? not early on -he had already made the decision to go to interview before he told her
When did you learn mark holbrook ending relationship? i think keith told me that mark broke it off, becky said she broke it off
did she say why? cause she wanted to make things work with keith
did she ever tell you she would travel from mustang to hugo to visit him at his house?no
at his work? no
to hugo to visit his son at a baseball game?no
went to visit his husband? no
did she tell you she faked a pregnancy with holbrook? no
did she ever tell you she had purchased a head stone? no
did she tell you about other men she had affairs with ?no
did she tell you about her pursuit for sex with other men?no
did you not know your sister was seemingly having a lot of problems with in the family? problems ---
did you know she was having problems with your mom? not out of the ordinary
would it be out of the ordinary for your sister to believe your mom no longer loved her? no
its not out of the ordinary?no its not
and she had a problem with not feeling loved by her mom? nor had she for a while
and she had problem with you and your wife? i know how she expressed it.
okay, how? she said she couldn't figure out why mom gave my wife the ring.
and aunt louise would leave it to the family? yes she left to my wife
so she felt like you were the more preferred child? at that moment when she texted that yes
but she was venting about how she did not feel love from mom? yes
and her aunt had willed or transferred to another family member? right
and to make her feel better you said you would give her the 25k ring ? i did not mean that at the time--i said the ring is not worth it you can have it.
so you said its fine to make her happy? no
but it was not even her moms ring? but you offered to give her your aunts ring
i did not offer her the ring to make her happy - i did it to solve issues in the family
and you are aware she was also having problems with trent and his wife jessie? keith and becky were both having problems with jessica
to the extent that becky was no longer talking to her son? keith had told me he limited the relationship because of what jessie had said to becky.
i want to ask you about the 40 caliber ?
how do you know the accuracy of that gun if he never shot it - he did tell you he was looking to get rid of the gun? he said once that if he got rid of it my brother would like to buy it
but you knew he did not like it? he had problem with the grip
you contacted stan miller -you wanted a contact person to go through -who's idea? mine
why did you want to contact stan miller? i thought he would not embellish or take things out of context and needed his advice.
it was so you or your sister could talk with him in an interview?
i needed someone - with not dealing with the media- to give me some advice
if you were not going to talk to him why did you worry about him taking things out of context? he said no media should interview her
you told the jury it was the reporters decision not to interview with the wife of a murdered fire chief that was getting national attention? yes, he said
i'm not going to interview your sister right now and no news media needs to talk to your sister right now.
wasn't it your sister's idea originally to talk with someone in the media - and then you said lets contact stan miller? correct
cause she wanted to get her version out? no, cause she wanted to make sure ted could get the liver and didn't want their to be problems.
before keith was even dead? no after he was dead
when did you contact stan miller ? around 6
keith was pronounced dead at 6- and you thought it was a good idea to contact the media? it was becky's idea
when miller testified the other day he said your sister seemed distraught but only because of the organs- is that how you remember your sister was distraught?
i said she wanted to contact the media so ted could get the organs
you said you didn't hear what becky said to stan - so you don't know if she even mentioned the organ donation to stan? i dont know
you said about 2 or 3 weeks before keith was shot and killed you asked him if everything was good and he said yes? why ask unless you suspect something was wrong? we were friends we played golf and i wanted to see how things were going
so not specifically about the marriage? no i asked specifically cause i thought of it often.
you also said after reconciliation you asked specifically do you still love him --why would you suspect she would not? because a lot of times people get back together for convenience or for the kids.
but the kids are out of the home? yes
have you had family members die? yes
have you ever heard her say something shocking when they die ? yes one time : when my aunt passed - her son has been a very difficult person for years and becky would always try to help him and when my aunt passed away we did not know what he should get and becky said "no one has any other rights and your son might not be any better than he was" and she would do things in opposition.
did she say anything disparaging ? not that i recall
would she laugh about it? not that i remember
you told the jury that your sister makes shocking comments to be in control? yes
the way becky handles things is to say shocking things
the shocking comment you testified to ?
yes, saying she would smoke 2 packs of cigarettes and she knew i didn't like her smoking.
at this hotel - she said one of the things she did was that she started to smoke? yes i thought it was becky being becky
you said she even said i just lit a cigarette in front of pastor mcnabb? yes
so she was not trying to get a rise out of him? i took it as she was continuing to deal with the death of her husband
but you said she did it for control of him? no control of herself - for her actions and behaviors
were you with her at hotel? yes
do you know she was contacting mark holbrook? no
did you know she was telling him just days after keith had been shot and killed that she still loved him?no
the shocking statements you say you witnessed in what way are they shocking to you? it goes against the core belief, my opinion , in opposite of what i think to be right
do you have a higher or lower bar because you are a pastor? actually no
it takes a lot to shock you? correct
even with your sister? i'm not easily shocked by becky because i know her
mr reddick youve known her longer than anyone else ? yes
you have offered to the jury some explanation and you know she likes to shock people? yes
did you know her to say shocking things about her marriage? no
you never heard her say things about being a great faker? no
back to the ring have you ever heard her she say she agreed with property being more important than life itself? no
have you ever heard her say its going to be difficult to sell the house now that her husband had been shot? no
have you ever heard her make shocking statements about her sexual exploits? no
have you ever heard her make shocking statements about the size of her husbands penis? no
didn't tell you her guilt about what she did earlier in the day such as having sex with someone else? no
and she never made shocking statements about her still loving mark holbrook ? no
are these the shocking statements she would make? if she thought i would do it without judging her... but she was a little afraid i might judge her
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statements about media - to talk with stan miller - it wasn't just becky - the boys were also involved? the boys were surrounded so the conversation was limited
i said kent do you want me to handle any media that comes along and he said please.
and keith's parents? they said yes please we would rather not talk to media right now
a lot going on at hospital - what do you mean? there was a lot of information flying everywhere i was basically trying to corral becky and make sure she was not recorded and something somehow used against her and i was trying to hold it together with keith laying there
how were kent and trent ? in shock
did they break down? i did not see them with crying or anything like that
you said someone said (at hospital) someone had been arrested? yes something like that there were 50 people all saying things - information being thrown out.
was this also including the media? no channel 25 pulled there car in thats when i contacted stan miller to ask for help
your mom? our mother loves us and we know it but sometimes we go blank on how mom deals with our faults and inadequacy.
the favorite? i always thought i was the one who took the brunt of everything - she was the baby. i was the oldest i felt like i took a lot of the heat.
even with that - becky still took care of them? absolutely, i felt bad about it i laid it all on her shoulders and did not take care of it myself.
the relationship between trent & jessie? it wasnt just becky - keith felt the same way? he felt very strongly about it
they showed us texts that didn't make sense and they were very hurtful and keith said im going to stop this
DEFENSE 3rd WITNESS - LINDA RUSSELL - friend of becky - worked at Coldwell Banker
was she proud of her kids? oh you bet
her grandkids ? yes
how were becky and keith together? joking and fun- like any other couple
did you learn there was a separation?yes
how did you learn? from work
she say anything about keith?
she said he didnt help buy groceries or clean the house but i think she got over that
did she ever say anything of ill will about keith?no
how was keith to becky? really good, one time he even bought her jewelry
how would you describe becky? smart ,very organized, a people person, friends with everyone much more outgoing than i was
you had an illness? yes
how was becky with your illness? real concerned, just when they said you have to shave your head. becky came over and shaved my head and offered to shave her own. she took me to buy wigs and hats.
she wouldn't let me go alone.
she would take you to treatments? scans and stuff like that she was determined i would not go alone
did she ever say things shocking? she would say things to get a reaction
you had not seen her in a traumatic situation? i dont believe so
so you can t tell us how she would react to something as traumatic as her husband being shot? no
anything that would make you think she had ill will toward keith? i dont think she did
CROSS EXAMINATION -
how close to keith death did you have dinner or lunch with them? i dunno
i remember i didnt have any hair so that would have been in 2009
so 2 years before he died? yes
how bout trip to port aransas ? maybe 3 years
she never told you she was having an affair with mark holbrook? no i just heard that at the office
did she ever tell you she was made keith was looking for work in another state? she said they went down to job interview and that she didnt want to leave oklahoma
DEFENSE 4TH WITNESS KEN ISOM - PASTOR
Pastor at Bridge
have you seen a spectrum of emotions after death? yes i have
so you stand in when sr. pastor cannot be there? yes
you know becky? yes she was a friend of 25 yrs, worked at our church,
do you remember Sept 20 -21st? yes
tell the jury why that date sticks out to you? there was an incident - i very quickly went to keith and becky's home
what time did you get that call? between 10 and 11
what time do you think you got there? shortly after
when you get the call are you shocked? yes i was very alarmed worried concerned
do you think that effects your memory? i just do that
did you visit with becky? she came out and spoke with some of us who were standing there... she had a little dog with her so she gave me the dog to hold.
where did you meet with her? in front of the house - directly north of the house
what did you observe about her? obviously she was distraught- not together and a little frustrated - from what i remember she had been questioned and frustrated cause she wanted to get to the hospital.
she was animated and talking louder
did you go to the hospital? yes
how would you describe what was going on there? just shock and all numb
were kent and trent there? yes
did you visit with them ? no
visibly how were they ? in control of their emotions
anything strange? i thought it was strange they were not all clustered together as a family.
did you pray with becky? yes we all clustered around keith and prayed for him
there was a chaplain telling everyone things we needed to do - like we should get money out cause they would freeze accounts and how she would live.
what was she like then?
she wasn't the typical becky she was definitely affected.
she wasn't normal but i wasn't around her all the time
CROSS
you said she and keith were involved in a team of premarital counselors? yes
when the divorce became public did they assume leadership role ? they were active but not in leadership role after that
after you got to house you waited for some time? yes
and you said she handed a dog to you ? yes
she made comments about the hospital? yes she was wanting to get to the hospital
what else did she say? she said "i think they are trying to pin this on me " it was what i attribute to her frustration
so i understood your testimony shortly after that you went on to hospital? correct
how long were you there? 2-3 hours
did you ever get to be alone with defendant? no
were there other people at the church? yes did you talk to them
did they express concern? yes
and were you concerned after that ? yes
REDIRECT -
at the point ms bryan said they are trying to pin this on me - did you know they had taken and done gun shot residue test on her at the scene? i didn't know what they had done. i knew they were talking to her
and she was frustrated they would not let her leave to go to the hospital ? thats the best i remember they wouldn't let her leave
is that an unnatural conclusion that they wont let her leave and tested her
STATE OBJECTION
you didn't know they had done gun shot residue? i dont remember knowing that
if they wouldn't let you leave - and if you were in that situation what would you think?
STATE OBJECTION-
DEFENSE 4th WITNESS - GLORIA STROTHER- foster sister
do you know becky? yes
she is my sister
people have said you are a step sister or foster sister - are you that person? yes
but you called her your sister? that what i consider her
did becky treat you like a sister? yes
you found out about shooting?yes
fmo who ? my son
and your son lived with kent? yes
i called and asked her if she wanted me to come get her? she said yes please.
she said they wouldn't let her leave and she wanted to get to the hospital
and she said their cars were in the crime scene
was she emotional? she was sobbing- heavy crying sobbing
when you get there did she come out to you? yes
what do you do when you see her? she is sobbing and she got in the car
did you hug? no it was a quick thing cause we were trying to get her to the hospital
we went to debbies house to get her shoes and jacket cause she was wearing a sleeveless top.
did becky stay in car? yes
did you see her washing hands or changing clothes or cleaning face or hands ? no
did you see anything that appeared to be blood? no
and what was she like during the car ride?
she was in shock cause she was sobbing -
and at some point did things change? yes when we got halfway to the hospital she was siting back there talking to debbie and sharon - i heard her say hey girls i got a picture of a guys penis on my phone and i said becky you need to stop your husband is in the hospital possibly dying.
and she said well i'm a bad person aren't i for talking like that and i said that doesn't make you a bad person we are just on the way to the hospital
how was she then? she was calming down from the shock like she was physically exhausted.
how long did she stay mellow? for awhile
was she like that all the way to hospital ? yes
were you with her at the hospital? the whole time
what did you do when you got to hospital?
we went in to the little family room - so i wasn't around her when she went to see keith.
and then osbi came and got her - i wasn't around her then
how was she acting then ? like real calm - like she was exhausted
have you ever seen her in that condition? no, not like that
did you see trent and kent? at the hospital
how did they act? crying
kent & trent both ? i believe
one point her eyes were sitting there trying to shut like she was going to sleep
how did she look physically? worn out
were you in the room with her and keith? not by myself
who was there? the family
who all was in there ? family - my side, her side
how did she act then? she was concerned about giving a guy that worked with keith his liver
how did she act toward keith?
she got up and went over beside him and kissed him on the side of the cheek and whispered something - i don't know what
what did appear to be? she was sad cause her husband was dying
did it appear to be a genuine moment? yes
how much time did you spend with her? the next day until my brother and his wife came in
how was she then? calm
what do you mean by that ? just mellow not saying much
did she stay in that state? yes
CROSS
you heard your sister make a remark about a penis and you turned around to tell her? yes
would you agree that debbie and sharon are in a better position to see your sister on this trip to the hospital? yes
i think you said - i didn't hear everything? correct
you have said your sister is crying and sobbing and then out of the blue she gets calm and says hey guys you want to see a picture of this penis? yes
did you hear her say anything about inheriting money and moving to hugo? no
did you hear her say she called him and he hung up ?no
did you hear her say she still loved him? no
did you hear her say that she felt bad about having sex with another man that day ?no
i just know they were sitting there laughing and cutting up
REDIRECT
but you saw her being upset? yes
and some point there was a change in her? yes
DEFENSE 5TH WITNESS -RANDY DUNBAR - NEIGHBOR
we are about a block from where they lived.
can see bryan backyard from house ? yes
did you know keith or becky? yes i met keith at donut shop
you had been down to his house? yes after i met him at donut shop he wanted me to see his shop.
he liked to hit golf balls in my yard i'd pick up golf balls and say here bryan
did he joke with you in other ways? yes, he would drive by and flip his siren and i would jump and then we'd laugh
did you ever see him doing construction projects around the house? yes he was always out there
you heard something a few weeks before the murder? yes
i heard gun shots - about 3 - sounded like gun shots like a rifle or pistol -
i went in and told my wife but did't call because we were thinking people shooting at coyotes or skunk
any other things of significance?
i was approached by a guy asking to do handy work. i said no i like to do it myself
you think this was 2 to 3 weeks prior to the shooting ? yes
why does that stand out to you? well all these things stand out to you after that happens
why did that stand out? something about him made me leery of him he kind of intimidated me
what made you leery of him? his looks -- a little gruff
what did he look like? whit medium build kind of athletic
anything stand out about him? something about his face - but i don't remember
what stood out? he was scruffy his facial features - you don't normally get too many people like that in that neighborhood
what kind of vehicle was he driving? older vehicle - pickup
what color? not sure i was thinking it was two tone but not positive
did he ask anything about neighbors? he asked if anyone else in the neighborhood needed help and i said no he then he drove down south
into the neighborhood? yes - not a lot other houses
why didn't you refer him to other neighbors? i was leery of him
what intimidated you about him? just his actions
so south is in the neighborhood? yes
and toward the bryan's? yes
did you ever see him again? no
do you remember sept 20th? yes
why? that when keith was killed
where were you? i went to newcastle cause my wife and her mother were out back visiting so i took off for a while
when did you come home? about 930
what happened when you pulled in neighborhood?
a dark colored vehicle zoomed by me and i had to stop before i could pull in the driveway
why did that stand out? you don't have to wait to turn into driveway - especially at night in our neighborhood
you sad it was a dark vehicle? it was a truck or some type of SUV but it went by so quick. it was going so fast - could have been able to tell if it is a neighbor
it was like an 80s model ? yes
did it have its lights on?yes
and you didn't see the emergency vehicles? no i went to bed
i woke up and saw the police and news down there
CROSS EXAMINATION
you told us a couple weeks before that you heard 3 gunshots in the middle of the day? correct
you were interviewed by the osbi? yes
The osbi said it happened 2 days later ? that could be right
on the 22nd you told em it was one gun shot? i really thought i told me there was more than one
you thought it was someone shooting a skunk ? correct
the man that came up asking for work you said he was in a truck? yes
you thought he was 5'8 to 6 ft ? i think so he was smaller than me and im 6 ‘2
and he was scruffy? i think he had scruffy hair- something about his hair
and he had sandy colored hair ? yes
you wouldn't describe it as a baby face? i dont know
he pulled up in a truck - a full size chevy truck ? two tone color and you told me tan but im not going to say that for sure
light tan and dark tan? it was two tone
and you believe the model was 1987-92? i believe so an older truck
it had a full size chevy in the tool box or tools?there was something out of the back i believe some tools
you got home and went to sleep before news - the 10 pm news? yes
how long did you watch baseball game?maybe 10 mins
but you were certain you were asleep before the news?yes
and you didn't hear the sirens?no and i normally hear things
so 730 or 8 the next morning you learned about what happened ? yes
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several things you are certain about on sept 20th? somewhere around 9:30 there is a dark colored pickup or some type suv and it was going so fast that was strange to you? yes
RECROSS
you said that was strange and it happened what time? 930 -935 somewhere in that time
you said it was strange yet in the osbi report you never mentioned it to them? i didn't think about it til the next day and then started thinking about thing s
but you were sure you were asleep in bed at 10pm? i am sure around
9 to 930 a dark vehicle - i couldnt tell what kind - came whizzing by me for sure and i am sure i went to bed.
you were in bed at 10 pm? yes
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